By passing a test one can become a Brahman in Bali – Questions on Castes in Hinduism

By: Mandar Dhayagude

I have few questions about social problems in Hinduism I am struggling to get answers of these question for last few months. Interestingly the questions are increasing day by day as I think on it and try to find answers.

I have tried to discuss these questions with the main stream scholars  but by and large they are avoiding these questions.

  1. There are 18 castes amongst Shrilankan Sinhalese. These castes are occupation based. Following is the list of those castes along with their traditional occupations Ahinkuntaya – Gypsies , Badahäla (Kumbal) – Potters , Bathgama – Traditionally cultivators. Called Palanquin bearers during the British period , Berava – Tom-tom beaters , Govigama – Traditional cultivators and herdsmen , Haali- Weavers, Hannali – Tailors , Hunu – Lime burners , Kinnaraya – Outcastes , Navandanna – Artisans many sub categories, Pamunu – Tenant farmers , Panna – Grass cutters , Pannikki – Barbers , Patti- Herdsmen , Porowakara – Wood cutters , Radala – Nobility of the Kandyan Kingdom , Rajaka – Dhobies, Washermen , Rodiya – Outcastes , Wahumpura – Jaggery makers .

Out of those 18 castes 2 castes namely Rodiya and Kinnaraya are outcastes. It is important to note that Sinhalese people are Buddhist for last 2200 years.

If Hinduism is only responsible for creating caste system and Buddhism is a kind of revolt against Hinduism as it is only caste based religion. Then how one can explain this reality?

On the other hand none of the above mentioned castes, is having history that goes beyond 1000 years, this is similar to the case of most of the castes in India as well.

  1. Emperor Ashok has embraced Buddhism, but after becoming Buddhist how law enforcement mechanism in his empire is changed? I mean has he replaced Manusmruti (although Manusmruti was written in second century AD, the other texts exists during Ashok’s period) or any other Hindu script for law enforcement  with some other book or with any other mechanism.

If yes please let me know about that? If not what is social significance of his changing religion?

The above question is true for all those kings in ancient India who became Buddhist.’Vinay Pittica’, the Buddhist script, on similar topic exist but it never got matured enough to replace the old Hindu scripts.

Now if Buddhism is a kind of revolt against social discrimination and there is a history of so many Kings in India becoming Buddhist, then why they could not produce anything that will replace the old discriminatory things.

  1. In Thailand there was a King RamaThibodhi (1350 to 1365 AD). This person has done two major things that effected the future of that country.

First he declared Buddhism as official religion of  the country (earlier it was Hinduism). Second he translated the Hindu scripts related to Law (Manusmruti and other such books called as Dharmashshtras) into Thai language. The Translated book is called as also called as Dharmashastra.

This book is considered as official book for law enforcement until 1932. Dharmashastra is supposed to be backbone of current Thai constitution.

My question is why there is no caste system in Thailand?Most important question is after becoming Buddhist what Thai people kept the Hindu scripts for law enforcement?

  1. There are castes among Muslims and Christens in India. According to Mandal Commission there are 135 OBC castes among Muslims in India. Whatis the reason behind it?

Obvious answer to this question is, the ancestors of Indian Muslims were Hindus and they carried their caste system along with them to Islam. But there is a catch in this argument. I will explain how, Indonesia is a country that is latest convert to Islam from Hinduism.

In 1478 AD Indonesian King Braha Varman became Muslim and the entire country became Muslim in next 300 years. But the spread of Islam in Indonesia was comparatively peaceful. So one can find Muslim a person with Hindu name. For example Meghawati Sukarnaputri was name of a former president of Indonesia. Name of current president is Sushilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Both of them are Muslims. One can find plenty of muslins in Indonesia with Hindu names. There is no caste system among Indonesian muslins.

My question is, Why those people who did not change even their names after changing their religion from Hinduism to Islam did not carry their caste System with them to Islam? As it is supposed to be happened in India.

Or blaming Hinduism for Caste system is baseless? If not How?

  1. Coronation ceremony of Thai king is done by a Thai Brahman. This tradition is going on since the formation of Thai state, since early thirteenth century.

Phra Vamdev Muni is the name of current chief Brahman priest for the current Thai emperor. He is called as ‘Raj guru’ and he is getting a treatment like living God in Thailand. ‘Phra’ meaning delightful is a title allowed for Royal Family members and the Raj guru.

Indraditya is the name of first king of Thailand. Neither his ancestors were from India nor he was anyone from the Khmer royal family. In fact he revolted against Khmer empire, created his own state, named it as Ayodhya that later being known as Thailand.

He declared himself as knower and protector of Vedas. He was coroneted by the then Thai / Khmer Brahmans. No one opposed it.

My question is what is difference between Chatrapati Shivaji and Indradiya? Alternatively what is difference between Thai Brahmans and Brahmans from Maharashtra ? Or what is difference between contemporary Thailand and Maharashtra ?

  1. The Maheshwari community is originally Kshatriya community (popularly known as Marwaris in India, Birla, Rathi are some eminent surnames among them) , but later became Vaishya because of pressure from Emperor Akbar.

The reason is that people from these clans were living in Akbar’s territory and they helped Rana Pratap against Akbar.

In the same way Brahmans from Maharashtra were forced to oppose Shivaji’s Coronation ? If not why we can find numerous examples in India and outside India that a person with humble background could become a king among Hindus. Why Shivaji was the exception? Was there any interest of Mughal empire in that?

7.Interestingly there is no caste system among Indonesian Hindus. Bali is a state in Indonesia. Its population is about 4 million. 94% people of Bali are Hindus.

Here anyone can become a Brahman by passing exam conducted by Parishad Hindu Dharama Indonesia. Parishad Hindu Dharama Indonesia is organization of Hindus in Indonesia.

  1. In north India there is one Caste Gurjar. It is an OBC caste. This group is migrated from central Asia to north India in 5 th century AD along with Huns. There are many clans among Rajputs who claims Gurjar Ancestry . There is a sub caste among Rajastani Brahmans called Gurjar Brahmans. How one can explain this phenomenon.
  2. There is a OBC caste called Kushwaha and there is a clan in Rajputs called Kushwaha. There is a OBC caste called Chandel and there is a clan in Rajputs called Chandel. Alternatively one can say that for every clan among Rajputs there is a OBC caste with similar name. How one can explain it?

  3. The recent DNA report reveals some important facts I will summarize few of them – There is no major external migration in Indian subcontinent for last tens of thousands of years. It clearly means that there is no Aryan Invasion. – There is no Dravidian race, there is no Aryan race. There were two races Ancient North Indians and Ancient South Indians. Those two races mixed up some 40 thousand years ago. Since then there is no major racial change in Indian subcontinent. – Castes are like clans, each caste is having founder effect. The founder event ranges from 30 generations to 100 generations means from 600years to 2000 years max. And before that it was common ancestry.

How one can explain this with existing social theories.

  1. Anywhere you go in Latin America or even in USA, and ask any native Indian (be it Inca, Maya, Red Indian, Aztec or any)about the Spanish, English and French people, you will find a kind of bitterness about them.

Why such a bitterness is absent in South east Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand etc) about India and Indian people.

If upper caste people are so cruel and they enslaved people of their own country, then why they spared people of Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Indonesia etc. Although there is huge cultural impact of Indian culture in these countries there is no flow of population from Indian subcontinent to South east Asia in recent time.

Can one explain it with current Social theories?

12.For getting causes of Caste system people go up to Manusmruti  (many people to up to Rig Veda) at the same time they do not consider the all countries that comes under Hindu sphere of influence, i.e. to say from Afghanistan to Philippines.

What is reason behind that?

13.Many Latin American countries have caste systems based on classification by race and inter-ethnic marriages. The caste system was imposed during colonial rule by the Spanish.

Under Spanish rule, a detailed caste system was instituted in at one time, classifying individuals according to the race of each parent. For example, Mestizo had a Spanish father and Indian mother, Castizo had a Spanish father and Mestizo mother, Espomolo a Spanish mother and Castizo father, Mulatto a Spanish father and black African mother, and so forth.

It is said that all people converted to Christianity in India is only due to caste discrimination. All intellectuals in India believes in that. Above mentioned facts contradicts to this belief?

  1. What is the exact social impact of foreign rule on any civilization. Every society is having social hierarchy, but this social hierarchy is flexible. In ancient India there are many examples in which people have changed their caste.

A few of these types of examples are given by Romila Thapar who is ‘main stream’ ( read marxists) historian, in her book on Ancient Social History of India.  Now why the flexibility is lost, when it is lost and most immortally what is the impact of foreign rule on that. What is impact of losing prosperity (reduction in resources due to loss of trade and commerce) on this flexibility. Is this impact is ever studied by anyone ? In this regard, it is interesting to know what happened in Bali (Indonesia) during the short period of  Dutch occupation ( roughly 35 years, starting 1908 to 1942).

During this period the Balinese moved towards a  rigid social order with the 4 Varnas became 4 castes. Earlier the Varna system exist among them but there was free movement of people from one to another.

One can observer that the social condition in Bali in early 20 th century is much similar to the situation in ancient India ( in terms of flexibility in social order, the fact that is accepted by the main stream historians as well).

How these Balinese  people came out of it after the Dutch rule is also very interesting to know.

By: Y. K. Wadhwa

Ref:  “7.Interestingly there is no caste system among Indonesian Hindus. Bali is a state in Indonesia. Its population is about 4 million. 94% people of Bali are Hindus. Here anyone can become a Brahman by passing exam conducted by Parishad Hindu Dharama Indonesia. Parishad Hindu Dharama Indonesia is organization of Hindus in Indonesia.”

Apropos of  the above point No.7 regarding anyone becoming a Brahman by passing examination in the state of Bali.

Somewhat similar practice is being followed in Arya Samaj and the Vedic Gurukuls run by it.  In accordance with the Vedic principles and dominating spirit of Manusmriti(without interpolations), Arya Samaj since its inception in 1875  has been emphasizing that caste is based on worth and not birth.

Irrespective of their hereditary caste, Purohits of Arya Samaj who are qualified as Shastries, Acharyas, M.As. or Ph.Ds are addressed as Panditji since they do the work of a Brahmin.

I understand that Late Dandi Swami, Pracharya of Gurukul Etah (U.P.), used to emphasize that his students (irrespective of their family background) on completion of their Vedic studies should use the title of  ‘Sharma’.

This was in clear contrast to the prevailing practice since ordinarily the Sharma title which means a person engaged in intellectual-mental labour(shram) and is used by birth based Brahmins.

Well known example is that of Vedic scholar and writer Late Pandit Ganga Prasad Upadhyaya(1871-1968) of Arya Samaj, Allahabad who was born in a Kayastha community.

As per some information received more than 50% of Purohits-Pandits (who are all qualified) working in over 300 Arya Samaj temples of Delhi hail from OBC/Dalit background.  Some of these  Pandits have won laurels for themselves as Vedic scholars.

Even before independence children born of so called Shudra parents were admitted to the Arya Gurukuls mainly for Vedic studies.

In fact none of the students in these Arya Samaj run Gurukuls while staying together in the hostels knew the caste of their fellow students and all of them were required to wear holy thread and same Indian dress irrespective of their background.  The entire emphasis was on providing quality education.  In today’s context,  the methodology adopted by Arya Samaj shall be quite relevant for upliftment of  the downtrodden sections of the society, unification of all classes and to purge the society of the evils of hereditary caste system.

However, Arya Samaj does not stand for plucking the eye in order to cure the eye ailment i.e, in order to eliminate caste distinctions it does not reject the ancient social order.

Especially in its earlier days, this great institution founded by Maharishi Swami Dayanand Saraswati attempted to restore the Vedic Varnavyavastha in its original form which provides for mobility as per Gun, Karma and Swabhava.

The four fold ancient varna system has its own uniqueness which offers equal opportunities to all for self development as per ones personality traits.

Vedic Socialism does not recognize that any one is higher or lower.  Rigveda (5.60.5) says all men are alike where no one is superior ‘ajyeshthasah’ or inferior ‘akanishthasah’. Mahatma Gopal Swami Saraswati in his book “Human Rights and the Vedas”( Siddharth Milan, New Jersey, Ed.2001) has rightly remarked “Vedas advocate unequivocally equality for all without any distinction of colour or race or language.”

Vedic Varna system is actually connected with division of labour of various kinds of jobs.  Irrespective of geographical location, it  is the need of every society to remove four social ills, i.e, ignorance(agyan), injustice(anyaya), inadequacy(abhava) and indolence(alaysya) through professional categories correspondng to the functions of four Varnas.

I have few questions about social problems in Hinduism I am struggling to get answers of these question for last few months. Interestingly the questions are increasing day by day as I think on it and try to find answers.  I have tried to discuss these questions with the main stream scholars  but by and large they are avoiding these questions.

PM Modi’s welcome at Silicon Valley is opposed by Wendy Doniger etc.

By : (name withheld for privacy reasons)

Please read the list of names signing the petition below. Some observations:

None of them have tech background, yet they are claiming to be policy experts on tech advising authorities what is best on the matter.The list of western nexus leaders has no surprises; if anything many of them now choose to remain unnamed publicly.

But the list of Indian sepoys has expanded and now has many new members including younger scholars. This is part of the trend to recruit more Indian who will lead the fight, while the white folks guide from the background.

Thats how British sepoys functioned as well. Please note these names. Note how easy it was for Richard Fox to mobilise Indian sepoys who did not even to think independently and investigate for themselves because the white man gave orders to start firing. You should expect more of this.

Sadly, 99% of the Hindu leaders in India and overseas have no clue of the sepoy army – who they are, who/how/why they get training, etc. Hence many Hindus fund, invite, sponsor, read these very same sepoys.

What does that tell you about the level of leadership and whether they are sufficiently informed to become leaders?

You should expect very soon that Indian sepoys will now be rapidly “made in India”. Sepoy training has infiltrated Indian institutions right under the nose of our leaders, and in many cases they are inside the organizations claiming to defend Hinduism. What an achievement for them!

Yet most of us continue to evade the core of this problem by going on blaming outsiders.

(Note: It is a Faculty Statement on Narendra Modi Visit to Silicon Valley. As faculty who engage South Asia in our research and teaching, we write to express our concerns about the uncritical fanfare being generated over Prime Min……. a video posted to oppose according fanfare welcome Indian PM Narendra Modi).

Damn with ”Caste by Birth” – proof that Caste is by ”Karma”

By: Satchitanand

What more corroboration one needs of the fact that Varna or Caste is not by birth but by one’s Karma. Here references are given and all the references are internal.

The fact that the itihasas and puranas do not dwell as much as we are obsessed with varna, itself is the biggest proof we need. How many characters from itihasas do you want.. Vidur, Valmiki, Vishwamitra.

Even the idea of classifying one as Deva, Asura was based on their svabhava. Hiranyakashipu was a dreaded asura, but Prahalada is perhaps the most evolved person in that lineage.

Internal references also give shudras like Sabhari..

Bhagvat Gita 18.42

samo damas tapah saucamksantir arjavam eva cajnanam vijnanam astikyambrahma-karma svabhava-jam

Translation ”Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness-these are the qualities by which the brāhmaṇas work”

Brahmana is by their attitude, work ethic, outlook..

I happen to think that Krishna is a much bigger authority than all our alpa minds put together.

B. G. 18.43

sauryam tejo dhrtir daksyamyuddhe capy apalayanamdanam isvara-bhavas caksatram karma svabhava-jam

Translation ”Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity, and leadership are the qualities of work for the kṣatriyas”.

Kshatriyata is also from attributes. That’s why we even had kings from different varnas.You can read them in detail.. but the key word is svabhavajam.. BORN OUT OF Svabhava.. not just janam.. birth..

B.G. 18.45 and B.G. 3.35.. outline that it does not matter what our svabhava or varna is.. by fulfilling the role to the best we all can evolve higher and further is Krishna’s assurance.

I can give a brief list of historically verifiable saints, still revered..Gora Khumba – Potter, highly regarded in Maharashtra, Karnataka.

Please read about Kanchipurna in Ramanuja’s life.Kannappa Nayanar – a hunterThirumangai Alvar – thief.. by the way there used to be communities which were thriving in this profession, till the Brits hijacked the idea and introduced them as thugs and thuggery.

Many siddhas from Tamil Nadu, several Alvars and Nayanmars..Nandanar is highly esteemed.. was a pulaya.. even today pulayas are not held high in society..The list can be on and on..


As Hindus, we all believe in janmas. so if I were of a specific varna. what was I in last or will be in the next.. wont my janma get transmitted.

KARMA is the key.. even to our janma.. our janma is determined by our KARMA.. past ones.. so it is very obvious that the great seers of the past saw beyond mere this janma.

Conclusively, both by examples and by the foundation principle of Karma one can conclude that its our svabhava based on our vasanas that give the platform, but our current KARMAS are more potent than just our past (which is the reason for our birth).

We all can raise above the THREE GUNAS.. Let us do Purushartha.

India must plug its loopholes to command respect!

By: Aditya Malhotra

It is interesting to note the Mexico angle in the current economic slowdown and uncertainty. While I do believe there must be a strong influence of the Church on the government of USA, I do not believe it would be over riding when corporations want to make profits or at the same time that can be looked in isolation of geo-political constraints in the world.

Business fundamentals ultimately drive commerce between countries.I do not think Mexico has a chance of providing the same stability and demand as compared to China.

Do not forget China is one of the biggest holders of government securities in the US. It is also the only country presently to drive growth in the world.

No country, including India would want Chinese economy to sink. It will be catastrophic if that happens.

Not only China or US,every country today respects strength. It wont be an aberration to say today “Strength respects strength”.If you are weak,you will be either subdued (like the Russians) or “digested” of all your original thoughts,  discoveries and inventions, and leaving you of an image of a wretched eternal borrower from others. As it is rightly pointed out,we must invite respect.

India has seldom been an agressor in its history. This is one of the reasons why countries think they can do anything with us and get away. And when they do they tend to think they are supreme. Aggression here doesnt necessarily mean war,it also means propaganda and also effective deterrance.

I still cannot understand what is the ideology of India and how it wishes to sustain it.

A country must not demand respect, but be worthy of it. If you dont respect yourself, do not think anyone else to respect you.

Just because India has a billion people,it does not qualify for respect. Respect can only be achieved when the majority of the billion is unified in ideology and direction.

No one will come and elevate India,the country has to do that itself and must think of international action ,only as a supplement,not as the driver of eleviation.

We still have a long way to go.

(Addition by Leena Mehendale)

While agreeing with the views of Aditya Malhotra, I would mention  two more factors — one is of Christianity, other of Sanskrit.

America is also influenced by the church and “Theory of supremacy of Christianity”  under which lots of efforts are under way to break India and to end Hinduism.

It will be perhaps easier to break india than to break china — at least the latter is not on the agenda of christianity.

Today chinese people are fast taking to christianity but without losing their Cultural thread. If there is a strong state of China in future, steeped in christianity, then both America and Pope will welcome it.

In India the conversions are happening more out of compulsion of poverty. So the christian religion leaders have to focus more on India and hence America will not drift to India unless we agree for large scale conversions including the rich and the elite.

Secondly the treasured knowledge of Bharatiya people is too big — through sanskrit Granthas and the Hindus can recapture it with much less efforts  unless it is completely under western Intellectual Property Rights.

Thus the tenacity of Indians for non-conversion is higher for which again the pressure on Political America is from the religion America to keep India as adversary while accepting China as a partner.

Wendy Doniger – A sex-obsessed woman tries to teach India

By: Ragini Sharma

How ridiculous. Wendy Doniger is dealing with her own repressed/obsessed sexuality and that of the prudish Euro-Christians she represents.

Its laughable that she is preaching sexual freedom to Indians, the land of Kamasutras. She needs to analyze why the Catholic priests are continuing their sexual violence on minors and why US is the land of pedophiles and pornography which targets children in poor countries, which she chooses to ignore.

The type of nonsense she calls academic writing appeals to the racist ideology that she and her cohorts subscribe to. Does she not know that she is a laughing stock of Hindus who can see through her racism?

Yes, Hindus are hurt and angry too – but they are turning that into taking action to expose her hollow and shallow academic work. She is the Eliade Chair? On what basis? Eliade wrote extensively on Yoga.

Does she know anything about Yoga or Patanjali – beyond her sexual obsession or is it her vanity that she thinks she knows it all.

Under Patanjali’s sutras, her state of consciousness would be Avidya – or ignorance, which is giving importance to something that is not importance, which is her obsession with sex. She also suffers from Dwesha or hatred towards Hindus based on racism. Plus there is her Raga or craving for fame, even it is based on hate-mongering and false propaganda against Hindu literature.

The entire corpus of her work is a result of an ignorant mind. Patanjali calls this kind of virtue – Viparyaya – its the activity of the mind that leads one to impose and project your own views, ideas and feelings on others.

She needs to go meditate and repent on her sins against Hindus. In conclusion, message to Ms. Doniger: please stop imposing your sexual perversion on India.

I think we can handle our own problems. Instead, you and your parrots are needed to counsel the American Govt and others about the rising sexual violence and perversity in your own country.

Caste and Swami Vivekananda


Salary and perks of Members of Parliament in India

By: Murthy Krishna

Salary & Govt. Concessions for an Indian Member of Parliament (MP).

Monthly Salary :50,000

Constituency Allowance per month : 45,000

Office expenditure per month : 45,000

Traveling concession (Rs. 8 per km) : 48,000 ( eg. a visit from Kerala to Delhi & return is: 6000 km)

Daily DA/ TA during parliament meets : 1000 per day

Charge for 1st class (A/C) in train: FREE all over India (for any number of times)

Charge for Business Class in flights : FREE for. 34 trips per year (with wife or P.A.)

Rent for MP hostel at Delhi : FREE

Electricity costs at home : FREE up to 50,000 units

Local phone call charge : FREE up to 1 ,50,000 calls.

TOTAL expense for a MP [having no qualification] per year : 35,00,000 [i.e . 2.92 lakh per month

TOTAL expense for 5 years : 1,75,00,000

For 543 MPs, the expense for 5 years : 9,50,25,00,000 (Over 950 crores).

This is how all our tax money is being swallowed and prices hiked on our regular commodities……. And this is the present condition of our country.

Reference for above figures:

(Also search google)

Wikipedia: Big Brother’s propaganda machine?


This article is published at this website:


Last year I saw an appeal by Wikepedia for donations, to fund their FREE internet drive –

I was touched, for they said, they do NOT even allow advertisements, so that they are free and cannot be manipulated.

I made a small donation myself, using my wife’s card.

Today I am dismayed to note that Wikipedia is a vested organisation.

Punch in PN Oak into Google search and see what Wikepedia has to say about him. They call him a CRACKPOT and a HINDU WITH AN “INFERIORITY COMPLEX”.

Sorry –

Please punch into Google search – I AM A PROUD HINDU- VADAKAYIL to educate yourself about our “inferiority complex”.

Because Oak said that Mecca was a Shiva Temple before Islam was born. This is NOT a big secret, rather it is an open secret.  Muslims dont have black meteoric stones in any other mosque.

Even Muslims know about the 9000 years old black meteorite stone or Shiva Lingam of the destroyed Hindu temple, at the SE corner of Kaaba, which they have to point to while they walk anticlockwise 7 times. In no other mosque in the world pilgrims have to walk 7 times anticlockwise. (In Shiva temples it is 7 times clockwise). And the divine Islam number 786 is OM seen in mirror.

And regarding Oak saying that Taj Mahal was built on a ‘Rajput palace foundation’. Yes, all Muslim invaders tore down Indian palaces and temples right to the foundation to hunt for hidden and vaulted gold and diamond treasures. India was the only source of diamonds in the world till 124 years ago. You can see pictures of the hidden and bricked up and sealed vaults (22 rooms) under the Taj Mahal’s foundations, with the Hindu motifs.

Why do you think Dwaraka temple was broken down so many times — with even the foundations uprooted?

Imagine the following scenario:

As soon as Saddam Hussein fell, all his palaces were converted to US Military headquarters. Let us assume that after 300 years of alien rule, Americans left Iraq.  And all the ancient palaces with Islamic motifs were now either churches with crosses, or some other structure holding the American way of life stuff.

And then a true Iraqi with some elementary knowlede of recorded history comes along and takes a deep breath and comments wistfully  ” 300 years back, this was Saddam Hussein’s glorious palace. My great grand father used to be in charge of this room “. — And then the COALITION or the ALLIES or the RIDING POSSE or the ZIONIST MEDIA calls him “a crackpot or a Muslim with an inferiority complex”!

So fuc#in’ be it — ok?

It has always been the victor’s history. Who has killed maximum people of this planet since the past 2100 years? — You have the answer.


Ask Michael Moore, who tells the truth! (and one day president Bush heckles him on Rothschild’s TV, ‘Why don’t you do real work?’)

You will find that, in most of my posts, I don’t offer any proof.  My posts are for this planet’s intelligentsia. These people don’t require proof– for them circumstantial historical evidence is good enough.

Indians, read the Mahabharat yourself, and see whom your heart takes sides with! Most history is written backwards — it is about who was the loser.

In Kerala an ordinary temple’s vaults were opened 10 days ago, and it revealed 24 BILLION USD worth of gold and diamonds. The Indian judiciary stopped further opening vaults and stocktaking till security issues are sorted out.

Who do you think financed the Ottoman Empire and their marauding soldiers?

Where did Rothschild(s) (read as British Empire) get all their gold from?

Rothschilds even stripped off the priceless solid gold spires of Taj Mahal —  after a doctored and engineered Indian Sepoy’s Mutiny in 1857.


I am an Indian from Kerala, the only place in the world Jews were never persecuted.

I have nothing in my DNA program against Jews.

I like to call a spade a spade. I will NOT call a donkey on a golden throne a King.

After Bar Kokhba’s foolish and selfish exploits screwed all the Jews and made them run helter skelter for survival, it was Kerala they looked to first. Because Solomon’s mother Bathsheba was from Kerala. Jesus was in Kerala for 3 years, before he went back to Jerusalem via the Egyptian Pyramids, as per Edgar Cayce trance readings. St Thomas (of the doubting fame) died in Kerala. Nobody can tell you where Jesus was for 18 years, till be landed up in Jerusalem as a well learned man.

Wikepedia must continue being neutral, and must NOT capitulate to the cyber Zionist soldiers funded by Rothschild.

Larry Sanger, did NOT hide his Jewish leanings. Jimmy Wales is more subtle.

Wikepedia– Hullo? –

Can you be more objective and truthful about Winston Churchill, (the puppet of Rothschild) who fanned both World Wars, or the Lousitania sinking or the carpet bombing of Dresden or the ancient Indian Hindu Vedic history– or – Alexander -Porus battle or the last Serbian Inquisition during the 2nd WW etc etc?

… pray?

… prithee?

In this internet age, NOTHING can be shoved under the carpet.

Such has been the effect of the spirit of India on the Hippies of the sixties, who kick started the information super-highway.

Big brother can NO longer manipulate this planet using their owned or payrolled PEER REVIEWED magazines.

If you want to know what I mean–

— punch into google search DNA NASA — you will find that a simple ordinary world citizen blogger, with NO ax to grind — like me – can be in the front page of Google among 15 million posts.

If you can’t find it just punch in NASA DNA VADAKAYIL!

This planet needs a break from the PEER REVIEWED and FREE MASON sponsored superheroes like Edison, Darwin, Churchill, Mother Theresa etc–

And Google–Hullo!?

Please police this —

If Wikepedia continues in the same way, they do NOT deserve to be on page number ONE— post number ONE, on your search engine.

And Wikipedia, could you give Nassim Haramein a chance to say what he wants to? Let people hear –be objective — don’t call him an CRACKPOT yet — like what you call Nikola Tesla.

At least he is NOT like Lynn Mc Taggart who has lifted everything about the INTENTION and the ZPF from Indian Vedas, but gives only Deepak Chopra a mention — because Deepak dear gives her a good review.

Or we in India, 1 out of 5 on this planet, know what to say —

and Nassim Haramein–

There was a UNPRECEDENTED and great union of science and religion in 1903 when the world’s only man in the past 4000 years with with 12 strand DNA, met with a mystic of the world’s oldest religion (11000 years old — or 9000 years older that Christianity).  Yes– Serbian Nikola Tesla and Indian Vivekananda!

This brief union nearly destroyed this planet-


Sacred geometry resonance is too dangerous a project to work on!

You should know when to stop!!

Let me give you a hint — assuming that you are a man of peace–


YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY SACRED GEOMETRY WITHOUT THE ANGLE OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS 51 DEG 49 MIN 38.25 SEC FACTORED IN. (Yes– 1.618 is only a part of it, lifted by Fibonacci from Vedas!)

YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY SACRED GEOMETRY WITHOUT THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNION OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE UNIVERSE FACTORED IN. (I do hope you understand the meaning of consciousness — did you see the cat looking into the mirror?)

YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY SACRED GEOMETRY WITHOUT THE CYMATICS OF 7.83 HERTZ  IN LIVING WATER  FACTORED IN. ( The power of OM was told  by Edgar Cayce — corrupted amen used by Christianity.  Don’t go overboard with the 6 point crystal.)

YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY SACRED GEOMETRY WITHOUT THE SPIRAL OF THE ANCIENT HUMAN 12 STRAND HUMAN DNA FACTORED IN. (Tesla understood the mobius coil . There is NO wave, only vortex chakras!)

The missing links to your grand unified theory OR the theory of everything is scattered throughout my posts.

I am retaining some crucial stuff.

Tesla was warned by Vivekananda NOT to give the tinderbox to monkeys.

When the western countries, came out from the quaternary ice age in 9500 BC, and were staying in caves, eating raw meat and doing grunt grunt, India was a great civilization, with kings staying in palaces, wearing silk and writing poetry in Sanskrit. An employee German Max Mueller working for German Jews Rothschild, the owner of opium running British East India company, was told by Vatican to subvert world history to prove to all, that Bible dates are right. That the big bang of cosmos happened in 23rd Oct 4004 BC, 9 AM ( while it happened 14 billion years ago ) and that the great flood with Noah’s arc and party happened in 2500 BC ( life came on earth 4 billion years ago ) . BY 5000 BC, the Indian Rig Veda was written in Sanskrit. Every religion and prayer on this planet is an offshoot of Hinduism and every language is an offshoot of Sanskrit. The Aryans went out of India, with their Swastika symbol ( inscribed on Shiva’s son Ganesha’s palm ) as modern DNA tests have proved, never into India, as contended by Hitler . The Indian Dravidian Anahata Chakra 6 point star has been adopted by Jewish religion. Shiva Lingam stones of ex-pagan temples are the main attraction at Mecca Kaaba , Dome of the rock at Jerusalem and Vatican.

Greeks have shamelessly copied from Hindusim—which is thousands of years older. Hence stealing is one one way lane.

Brihaspati is Jupiter , Thursday is named after him Guruvar ( Thirsday ) is for Guru Brihaspati. .  Same way Jupiter is Zeus/ Thor. Thor’s day is Thursday. The astrological and astronomical sign of the planet Jupiter (♃Jupiter) is  used to represent Thursday.

Greeks have lifted Kronos  (father of gods and titans) from Maharishi Kashyap—the father of Hindu devas and asuras .

King Kamsa killing all babies of his sister Devaki till Lord Krishna is saved is lifted by plagiarists Greeks for Kronos ( he swallows all his babies ) till Zeus is born—to avert a prophecy.. Rhea , wife of Kronos is equivalent to Devaki.

The Greek trinity gods   Zeus / Poseidon/ and Hades are lifted from Brahma / Vishnu/ Shiva.

Hindu goddess trinity is Saraswati/ Parvati/ Lakshmi is copied as Hera, Hestia and Demeter

Goddess Lakshmi ( wealth ) is Hera.

Goddess Saraswati ( learning and fine arts  ) is Athena

Yama ( god of death ) is Hades

God Varuna is Poseidon.

Vishwakarma ( divine architect ) is Haphastus.

God Murugan is Ares.

Krishna’s weak foot pierced by an arrow  is same as Achilles foot.

Krishna and Hercules kill giant snakes.

Indian Sapta rishis is copied as seven sisters.

Lord Rama went after a king who stoles his wife —same is the cause of the Trojan war where Helen was stolen.

Several people came to India to get a cure for epilepsy and went back as intellectuals after stealing our intellectual rights.

Pythagoras was NOT even a mathematician.

He came to Kerala by ship all the way from Greece 2500 years ago, to cure his debilitating epilepsy with cannabis extract.

He hung around in the Kerala School of Math , without understanding a dang thing–

  • but he had some notes with him and went back as the planet’s No 1 mathematician , thinker and a vegetarian to boot.

One thing must be understood very clearly . People in the ancient days –before  Alexander the Great came to India by ship. And the biggest trade port was Calicut my hometown. People who tried to come in via the Hindu Khush mountains died a horrible death as the Bolan and Khyber passes were a closely guarded secret.

Pythagoras theorem was too simple for Kerala Mathematicians .  They could do the same thing via advanced Calculus.

Now , an epileptic  brain damaged MORON like Pythagoras could never ever understand advanced Calculus—simple geometry –yeah !

How do you think they arrived at the divine 108 beads number in our Rudraksha mala ?

How did they know the relative distance of sun and the moon , thousands of years before Pythagoras  was born in 570 BC ?

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100 years later Plato would come to Kerala by ship and learn for a few years .  And then he went back as a greater cat than Pythagoras— he was now the planet’s No 1 THINKER !

Both Pythagoras and Plato had NOTHING original to offer to this planet — other than what they stole and patented in their own names .

Really I am NOT interested in any arguments with wannabe gora g…s on Greeks Pythagoras and Plato.

Without understand what the hell is CONSCIOUSNESS bot these jokers Plato and Pythagoras shared a “mystical approach to the soul and its place in the material world”. Oh Boy !

Pythagoras is now known as the first person on this planet to have taught the earth was spherical, with antipodes and that it revolved around the sun. Oh  Boy!

Well I suggest you must read my post below.

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Greek Plato  ( 427BC-347 BC ) also went back from Kerala as a Mathematician ( he was smarter than Pythogoras )  and a philosopher.

He shared his spoils with his mentor Socrates, and fellow homosexual side kick Aristotle ( 384 BC- 322 BC ) and got himself immortalized as the founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world.

Socrates and Plato were hardcore homosexuals  . Aristotle initiated Alexander the great into homosexuality.

Thus this gruesome HOMOSEXUAL TRIO  of Plato, Socrates and Aristotle laid the foundations of Western philosophy and science with stolen and patented knowledge .

Pythagoras gave his stolen Ayurveda ( excerpts from treatises of Susruta and Charaka ) to the grandfather of Hippocrates. In those days Greeks knew NOTHING of human anatomy and physiology because of the strict Greek taboo forbidding the dissection of human cadavers.

Hippocrates , the FATHER OF WESTERN MEDICINE tried to fudge 6000 year old Ayurveda and give it his own spin. After all he was just a spin doctor, whose entire knowledge was from his grandfather.

Example :

In Ayurvedic medicine, there are 3 basic temperaments: Vata (gas), Pitta (bile) and Kapha (phlegm).

Hippocrates ( 460BC- 370 BC ) threw in one more most STUPID item ( blood—TEE HEEE ) into the works.  For in the Sushruta Samhita, it is stated that blood ( Rakta ) , is a DHATU  in Ayurveda.

So his fudged treatise talks about – bilious (bile), sanguineous (blood),  phlegmatic (phlegm) and atrabiliary (black bile).  And he removed Vata ( gas ) –the most important one.  Show what an amazing idiot he is.

Hippocrates the thief did several more spins in medicine– that body is made of water, air, earth and fire.  He left out vaccum of Ayurveda . In the Ayurvedic system, body is made of water, air, earth, fire and vacuum. Digestion is explained as cooking of food with the help of body-fire.

Hippocrates theory that the human body is a microcosm of the universe is lifted from Ayurveda/ Upanishads .

Information about Hippocrates can also be found in the writings of Aristotle, which date from the 4th century BC.  All newly qualified doctors take what is called the ‘Hippocratic Oath’- NOT knowing that he is NOT worth to take an oath on.

Noting that Pythagoras got himself healed of Epilepsy, Hippocrates was absolutely cock sure of stating that epilepsy is NOT created by the Greek gods- and that like for every other illnesses it had a natural cause.

Stupid Hippocrates wrote that raw food is bad.  Cant blame him, after all it was his grandfather who received third party stolen stuff.

Hippocrates mistook the Ayurvedic word  AMA.

The Ayurvedic word for toxins, ama, means, “crude” or “raw” – residues from faulty or incomplete pepsis that haven’t been properly integrated into the body and its functioning, and therefore impede it.


Enter Orpheus  –  the Indian seer , a master musician and sitarist,  the holy man who brought Pythagoras to Kerala by ship and took him back via Muzris ( Kodungallur— cultural centre of Calicut king  ) Bernice  ( Red sea port of Egypt ) and Alexandria ( Egypt ) .

Orpheus was a Brahmachari , a celebate sage who was a veena virtuoso.   Veena is the oldest musical instrument on the planet.

Jealous Aristotle and Plato tried to paint him as a homosexual and a woman hater, which he was NOT.

Herodotus had clearly written that Orpheus who would play divine string music and tame wild animals came from India.

Orpheus , a strict vegetarian introduced spirituality to Greece  .  He was known for the use of holy theertham from a copper bowl and a Tulsi ( basil) leaf which he used to keep in his mouth .

Cicero called Orpheus , the tawny hued , a devotee of Bacchus ( Krishna ) crowned with kissos ( Tulsi).

Western historians and the Pope blurred  Jesus and Orpheus , and pretty soon it was Jesus who was attributed to all the qualities of Orpheus – enchanting wild animals with a 7 stringed lyre .

The original sitar ( derived from the veena  ) has seven strings  which run over curved, raised frets ( Rudra / Saraswati veena) , and the remainder are sympathetic strings (tarb,  taarif , tarafdaar) which run underneath the frets and resonate in sympathy with the played strings.

It was Orpheus who gave Pythagoras  the mathematical relations of the notes on the musical scale.

The wisdom of the ancients has been taught by the philosophers of Greece, but also by people called Jews in Syria, and by Brahmins in India.”–Megasthenes- 300 BC.

Orpheus the tawny hued Hindu Maharishi from Kerala, India gave music to the west.

Before that their music consisted of clanging rocks and shouting nonsense. .

Orpheus also gave  astrology and magic ( mantravadam ),  vedic metaphysics ( magna grecia ) from Kerala to the west.

Orpheus was a master in astrology, and all Greek astrology is though Orpheus.

The Greeks spliced on the FAKE story of Eurydice to Orpheus, based on the MIRRORED version of ancient Hindu myth of Savitri and Satyavan.

This is about the efforts of Orpheus to retrieve his wife, Eurydice, (who was killed by a serpent on their wedding night ) from the underworld. Orpheus went down to Hades to claim her, and played so sweetly with his lute that Pluto allowed Eurydice to return to the earth with Orpheus, but on condition that he did not look behind him until he had reached the terrestrial regions. Orpheus, however, in his anxiety to see if she were following him, looked round, and Eurydice disappeared from his sight, instantly and forever.

This LOOKING BACK story is mirrored from the lore of Adi Shankaracharya bringing Devi to Kerala in 2000 BC —  he looked back and Devi disappeared at the spot of Mookambika temple at Kollur Karnataka.

Pythagoras learnt metempsychosis from India.  Metempsychosis is the Greek equivalent of the 11000 year old Vedic Hindu doctrine of transmigration of the soul, Karma and and reincarnation after death.

Almost every Greek text tells that Orpheos was famous for Ahimsa or non-violence . In Euripides’ play Hippolytos a father taunts his son with the “lifeless food” he eats since taking Orpheos for his “king.”

Orpheus is praised for his knowledge of medicine and astrology ( ONLY Ayurveda and Indian astrology existed those days).

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The name of India, so far as is known, first appears in Greek literature in the 5th century B.C. in the works of Hekataios and Herodotos.

Herodotos of Halikarnassos (484-425 B. C.) whose histories have survived in their entirety had written clearly about India .  Herodotos writes about India’s population, saying that the Indians are “more in number than any nation known to me.”

He goes to great details while telling of Kerala’s  wealth in gold; He tells about  Indian birds and beasts he regards as much bigger than those existing elsewhere, except for horses. Indian clothing he describes as made from wool growing on trees (i.e. cotton) and the amazing thin cotton Calico cloth , we use in Kerala as Mundu ( dhoti ).

Herodotos’ most famous statement about India- that gold is produced in the Indian desert by fierce ants larger than foxes- , which appears to be bull, just for kicks.

Unless these large ants were golden jackals who would call a nearby tiger .  Such jackals had terrific night vision and sniffing ability ( excellent for bomb detection squads ) and leads the tiger to juicy prey , and then eats the left overs , which the grateful tiger deliberately leave behind.

Many Indian seers visited Greece , as in 7000 BC, India ruled Palistan ( Palestine ) . Once when Socrates was asked by an Indian seer, what he does for a living . When Socrates replied that he “investigated human life,” the Indian laughed aloud , saying that “no one was able to observe human affairs if he was ignorant of divine matters and consciousness .”

Vegetarianism in Greece is called Orphikos bios, or “Orphic way of life”. Only Indians were vegetarians those days.

Aristotle ran down OR rather tried to convert Orpheus to be a homosexual like him, just because of a song he wrote about a red-lipped boy on the ship Argos. ( AAHA red lips  came out of sucking too hard TEE HEEEE )

Both Orpeheus and the converted Pythagoras forbade the sacrifice of animals—so there goes the western theory of animal sacrifice in Indian temples.

Let me quote ( I usually do NOT care for such third party references ) of the parallels between the Orphic path and the yogic as written by Joseph John Campbell :  “a system both of thought and practice, exactly paralleling that of Indian asceticism, was communicated by initiated masters to little circles of devotees.

The soul, it was declared, returned repeatedly to life, bound to the wheel of rebirth (compare the Sanskrit samsara).  Through asceticism (Sanskrit, tapas), however, the body could be purged of its Titan dross (Sanskrit, mirjara, ‘shedding’) and the soul released (Sanskrit, moksha, ‘release’).

Also, rituals fostering meditation on the godly factor were of help (Sanskrit, bhakti, ‘devotion’).  And when, at last, in rapture (samadhi), the initiate cleaved to his own intrinsic being (svasvarupman), he was divine (Shivaham, ‘I am Shiva.’)”.

The gay side kick of Aristotle wrote : “ Orpheus so hated women he chose to be reborn as a motherless swan”  .  It is a pity that he visited India , yet he knew nothing of Brahmacharya.

However Plato respects Orpheus for his poetry ,the sweet hymns  of the hexameter form that revolutionized Greek poetry.   For Greek / Latin classics Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey and Virgil’s Aeneid have inherent the Dactylic hexameter ( heroic hexameter)  a form of meter in poetry or a rhythmic scheme, like the metered Sanskrit verses.

The mysterious The Testament of Orpheus was the most important Orphic document for six centuries after it’s “discovery” circa 300 AD.  In it Orpheus says when in Egypt he met Moses who taught him about monotheism.

A circa 350 AD hematite magic amulet, once in the collection of the Berlin Museum, depicted a man crucified on a cross with a moon and seven stars above his head and the words Orpheoc Bakkikoc.  It was declared to be a forgery by a furious pope Pius XII.

The Orphic doctrine was purely vedic Indian and  remained on a mythological plane, interpreting the universe in terms of personalized deities and procreation. Pythagoras refined and rationalized it and grabbed the glory later.

A Indian Christian trader named Theophilos, from originally from Kerala and resident in Socotra island ( Aloe vera trade ) undertook several missionary journeys on behalf of the Roman emperor Constantius in the mid-4th century.   He writes of a small Christian community in on the Malabar coast which traces its origins to Jesus’ disciples Thomas and  Bartholomew.

Bartholomew is one of the 12 disciples of Jesus and ismentioned in three Synoptic gospels: Matthew,[10:1–4] Mark,[3:13–19] and Luke,[6:12–16] and also appears as one of the witnesses of the Ascension[Acts 1:4,12,13]; however, each time he is named in the company of Philip.  He is not mentioned in Gospel of John.

In the mid-6th century the Alexandrian merchant Kosmas Indikopleustes (India-navigator- TEE HEEEE ) is reputed to have visited the Malabar coast and Ceylon.  Kosmas was the author of a stolen world-geography and a book on stolen Kerala astronomy.

In his letter The Orphic Comparison of the Sun to God Ficino explains “It is certainly in the Sun that visible light is created from the light of consciousness, and there also sight is created from

understanding.  For there understanding is no different from the light of consciousness, nor sight from visible light.”

Consciousness ?


See, in a few paras I have trashed entire Greek history—

Wide ranging questions: Answered by Rajiv Malhotra

ASI: Destroying 1000 years old temple in Tamil Nadu

By: Rangarajan Arangan

Hindu Temples, which are 1000s of years old are getting ransacked.  Old inscriptions, symbols and procedures are changed.  HISTORY IS GETTING REWRITTEN!

Shri Subramanian Swamy is doing all that he could to prevent as much as he could, as a single man army, to question the administration of temples, especially in Tamil Nadu where the Hindu Rights & Charitable Endowment Act is in place which seemingly has an agenda of its own to disrupt and distort history.

One such temple which is of great importance to Vaidhikas is Shri Ranganatha Swamy temple in Srirangam, Trichy, Tamil Nadu, India.  This temple is a place where Shri Ramanujacharya spent 80 years of his life in defining Vishishtadvaita.

The temple has a minimum of 1000 year of history as Shri Ramanujacharya’s 1000th birthday is just a couple of years away, and so one can imagine the historical importance. To highlight if further, the Archaeological Society of India has published one separate volume of book on the inscriptions found in this temple.  No other temple has this distinction. More than 700 such inscriptions are documented.All that is good for history.

But what is happening today on the ground is destruction of this history.

This possibly is a first step to rewrite history.   In the name of renovation ancient structures are being demolished.   With what one knows about the work and their approach, they are not even documenting these demolitions by video recording them.

This happens right in the middle of day light, where the locals are unable to question the authorities because of their high handedness and the soft nature of the locals who’s lineage has been in the service of Shri Ranganatha Swamy, in this temple for centuries together.

Many rituals are being stopped, hurdles created, and high handedness shown on anyone questioning anything. Already two Mandapas where there were paintings which were written in the past were demolished.  History GONE!!!  My intention for this post is to bring this to your light and seek your inputs to see how to stop this destruction. I intend to fight this legally and have initiated a series of RTIs in this regards which I will post in my blog at Arangan Thirumutram as and when (if and when rather), I receive a response.

I am already getting threats from the temple workers for questioning them and in the past week I was mobbed by about 20 workers in the temple in the day light with threats to beat me up and break my hands and legs.

While all we demand is TRANSPERENCY in the way things are happening, reasoning for demolition/modification/construction, there is very cold response from temple authorities.  When I spoke to Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) they said that they can do very little as they are not wanted by any.  While they are entitled to “protect”, they are unable to do so for various reasons as is obvious to any of us in India.

If you protect this temple, there cant be any construction to about 200m on all four sides of the temple which is a huge negative for the authorities to come in and protect the temple.

They quote a recent happening in Thiruvannamalai where they faced the wrath of many in protecting the site.While creating awareness of such happenings is a motive for this post, the key motive is to gather support to prevent what is happening as we speak now which will result in destruction of history which spells glory of our past.

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